Inuyasha Chapter 500

Filed under: Chapters — Starks at 10:03 pm on Tuesday, April 3, 2007

Inuyasha v51 ch500 "Keishousha" (Successor)

Edit: High resolution scans coming later this week when I finish my classwork. This is probably going to be a one time thing.

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curious one

April 3, 2007 @ 10:18 pm

I'm not sure how exactly it will happen, but with Inuyasha being the title character and all, this won't end well for Sesshoumaru  

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Patches

April 3, 2007 @ 10:32 pm

I'm debating whether or not to translate the bonus chapters. They're just a bunch of Inuyasha-related trivia questions, plus some bonus questions that you can submit the answers to and get prizes like a DS Lite autographed by Takahashi, a copy of one of the drama CD's, or a jacket. There's actually no real pertinent information in any of it. I was at least expecting a comment by Takahashi, but there is none.  

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Patches

April 3, 2007 @ 10:33 pm

I keep saying "bonus chapters". I mean "bonus pages".  

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Shouki

April 3, 2007 @ 10:39 pm

Did Sessho just call Rin a "useless interruption"? Does anyone else think Rin may leave Sessho at the end of this arc? She, along with everyone else, was rightfully horrified at how low he has sunk — all this for, as Inu put it, that sword.

Sessho isn't a "bad guy," but he definitely isn't a "good guy"; and he's an awfully destructive "in-between," too. Rin seems firmly in the "good" camp. She loves Sessho, but this might mark a turning point in their relationship. Like Naraku, Sessho is consumed with a quest for power, and Rin may want nothing to do with it.

We know where this leads. Sessho loses, and Inu gets the full sword. But what of Sessho? No one should look at him the same; the Inu Gang definitely won't, and I doubt Rin will, either. Does he leave completely empty-handed, without sword or Rin? or are we expected to believe he'll be completely at peace with Inu as Tessaiga's rightful successor, and convert back to his neutral/good-leaning ways, Rin at his side? I really don't knoow. Sessho has shown he's capable of absolutely anything, and is self-absorbed to a ridiculously destructive degree.

I'm in favor of him leaving for a long period of self-reflection. I'd hate to think he'll get rewarded for his behavior in the near future.  

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PlinyNo Gravatar

April 3, 2007 @ 11:00 pm

Little Rin- a "useless interruption"?!?
…And since when does Sessh shout attacks out loud?
Just seems weird to me – has an "off" feeling to it.

What was the bit about- if Sessh wins he'll throw both swords away?

Shouki- as much as it pains me (b/c Sessh's and Rin's unique relationship is what got me hooked on this manga) I think you may be onto something. I kind of started to suspect Rin might be "adopted" into the InuCrew when they showed up a few chapters ago to roast marshmellows (camp) together. If so, boo.

Boo, too, to Sessh's behaviour of late. Tossing that Meidou around hither and thither has go to be annoying- plus destructive to the natural surroundings!  

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Anonymous

April 3, 2007 @ 11:05 pm

Before this chapter I was pretty dang sure Rin would be with Sesshoumaru the whole way. yet, now the only person I think is going to be sticking w/ Sesshoumaru is jaken. ( up until now Rin has never been able to see this side of Sesshoumaru before)

What I see happening in the near future is Rin ending up with Keade and learning how to become a miko while Inuyasha and the others fight Naraku.

I think Sesshoumaru calling Rin a useless interruption, in his opinion true. I don't think sesshoumaru will ever see Rin as anything important. To Sesshoumaru Rin is like a beloved pet, you'll do anything for them but honestly do you really need them?
No thier's no way this is going to end good for Sesshoumaru no matter what happens.  

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Anonymous

April 3, 2007 @ 11:12 pm

Ps
Inuyasha seems tired of the sword arcs as well "sesshoumaru are you obessing over the swords again?"
Just thought I'd mention it ^^  

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Shouki

April 3, 2007 @ 11:18 pm

In all fairness, the whole Inu Gang was screaming bloody murder. Rin was last in line, so he made that comment after her outburst, though, so who knows.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 3, 2007 @ 11:53 pm

I think when he called Rin a "ussless interuption", he ment that he wanted her out of harms way, not that she had no value to him, it just came out wrong. things can come out when your in a fit of rage or anger and not thinking or preoccupied that may be interperated compleatly from your intent. i think he was just frusterated.

another thing i think this wanting of inu's soward is actually a battle with his father and this sudden coventing is his anger at his father rather than a resurfaced obbsession over the sword. i believe the conflict over the sword was between him and his father all along and had nothing to do with inuyasha. and the sword issue came up again because he recently concluded that his father intended to leave him with nothing. i also think that the reason the two brothers have a complicated messy relationship relates back to their father. i also think deep down this whole issue over the tetsaga is his anger at his decised father or a need to prove something to his father. acctually phycologically sibling rivalry is because one sibling fells that the other is loved or favored more than the other. basically the sword battle has nothing to do with naroko or that dead girl.  

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Mental_Butterfly

April 3, 2007 @ 11:55 pm

Hmm… something's definitely off here. I don't know if Sessh's existential crisis has just finally driven him over the edge or whatnot. If he's lost it, it would explain the jab at Rin, he's totally lost focus on what actually matters to himself in the face of potential paternal rejection. And don't try to tell me Rin doesn't matter to him, no one jumps into the void without knowing the consequences for the sake of someone they don't value.

The thing about discarding the swords is interesting though – even while he's obsessing over it, he's disengaging from the whole thing. All he's trying to figure out, it seems, is whether or not Inuyasha is really all he's cracked up to be. By winning, he would be establishing that he's able to overpower his father's will, while at the same time rejecting everything that victory would symbolize. Seems he's finally gotten sick of Papa's mind-games.

Poor Inu, having to bear the brunt of his big brother's breakdown. Obviously Inuyasha's going to win, even beyond the fact that he's the hero, his father decided he'd win this fight long ago. The whole thing's futile on Sessh's part, you can't mess with destiny (Oedipus Tyrannus, man, Oedipus Tyrannus). I don't think Sessh'll die here, not by Inu's hand at least – he doesn't seem to have it in him to kill his brother. Still, I hope Sessh gets something out of all this. Poor kid's been through a lot lately.  

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MGN

April 3, 2007 @ 11:59 pm

I dissagree with the whole 'Rin leaving Sesshy' thing. HE was the one who brought her back to life and just because he's suddenly in a bad mood doesn't mean she's going to go react by saying something like "You're mean, I'm leaving you." It just doesn't sound like something little Rin would say.

Dunno, just my opinion. This chapter made me sad though. Even though Inuyasha is the main character, sesshy has had a pretty big role in the manga too, and Rumiko wouldn't just kill him and let rin and Jaken just mourn over him…hopefully O.o .  

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Anonymous

April 4, 2007 @ 12:02 am

Extra "t" in Sesshy's name on page 14, in case ya hadn't caught it…  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:10 am

Hmm…intresting chapter.

I do think Sessho is taking things a little too far, but I actually see a very sensible method to his madness…

I think Sessho wants to test his baby brother once and for all, and see if he's worthy of having both swords. If he can beat Sessho, than Inu has proved himself. If not, Sessho will "discard" of both swords and leave his little brother alone. I agree with Sessho whole heartedly, and I think it was very sensible.

As to the statement about Rin, we all know that Sessho never says what he means, and he also knows that Rin will be a distraction from whatever resolve he's gotten. It's something he just HAS to do.
Sessho has had too much character development thus far, for it not to mean anything. It's just like Zuko from Avatar. He's been through too much, to go back to the way he was in the beginning, no matter what anyone says.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:14 am

basically sesshomaru issue is not the sword, it is more or less a mediom that truly simbilises the need to be loved by his father and the felling that his father thought more of inuyasha in his eyes.

the conflict had nothing to do with the sword (all along or even from the begginning) but it was a conflict with his father and the anger at his father, the sword is nearly a scapegoat or a justified need/reason for astablishing blame and a metaphor. subcontionously he knows the truth. if you dont believe me just look in the previous chapter what happened before he recentally concluded that his father intended to leave him with nothing and than ran to inuyasha and asked him to draw his sword.

to sum it up he was hurt!

and phycologically all sibling rivalry is of one sibling getting hurt because of a parents lake of campassion compared to another (very damadging). and the fighting begins as one's anger to get back at the parent for regecting them and envy and hatred twords the sibling because inthe parents eyes they are loved and or loved more or favored over. but with all sibling rivalry the conflict is over being hurt by the parent.

if you take away the phycological damnage sesshumaro is an ok guy,like inu sensitive. he is actually really sensetive because of his quick action to make a deciton when angery. that shows that thought he shows little emothin seldomly (another sign of emotionall abuse) his anger can cloude his judge ment.

basically this whole chapter was sesshumaru fighting his father with his own demonds mixed in.

and no im not a doctor im a 17 year old school girl who is just naturally deep and loves to analize things. and i seen a documentary (very short) on sebling rivalry once, a movie where this guy was a serial killer because of emotional damnage from his mother, and common scence and reasoning.  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:14 am

>>3324

That's funny, since Sesshoumaru doesn't have any 't's in his name…  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:21 am

whether or not inu will win or not we know that shesshumaru will not die because he is the only one that can defeat naroko and it is his destanie that he will defeat him. his destiny to defeat naroko was realized by that dead girl (cant remember her name) he was unable to save. and no this battle and anger and frustration in this capter is sesshumaru figthting his father  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:25 am

whether or not inu will win or not we know that shesshumaru will not die because he is the only one that can defeat naroko and it is his destanie that he will defeat him. his destiny to defeat naroko was realized by that dead girl (cant remember her name) he was unable to save. and no this battle and anger and frustration in this capter is sesshumaru figthting his father

another thing rin would never leav sesshoumaru, where the hell did the original poster get that from. she even wished that she would stay with lord sesshumaru forever.  

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Crafty

April 4, 2007 @ 12:25 am

I don't understand. Wasn't this chapter supposed to include an interview with Rumiko Takahashi?  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:28 am

shessumaru vs. his father; not inuyasha

see other coments by alexis

sorry for the reapeat of my quotes, that was like a typo wiht clicking.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:32 am

maby he didn't care if he destroyed both swords or if he absorbed inu's sword, i bet he mad a decistion when he was angery and all he could think about was getting back at his father. he probably had no original plan but to start throughing punches at his dead fater.  

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npNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 1:23 am

Man I am just psychic or something. I knew this was about Sess seeing if Inuyasha is truly ready to wield the complete Tessaiga.

And to the response about him deading Rin: Well this is between the brothers. I'm actually glad the brothers are settling this on their own, without any side comments or questioning from the others. Yes it sounds harsh, but the others can distract the fight. And like someone else said, the way Sess flings around that sword, someone could really get injured/killed.

But please RT, finish this within the next chapter.  

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Anonymous

April 4, 2007 @ 3:14 am

"Useless interruption" – He meant the interruptions were useless, not Rin. The interruptions were useless because they weren't going to persuade him otherwise.

And there has been nothing to hint Rin is leaving Sess. Not much time has passed since the Meidou arc in the story.  

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 4, 2007 @ 5:16 am

I loved this chapter. I think this is the only way the sword issue could be resolved once and for all. I mean, it would have been too OOC for Sess to just be like "Hey, little bro, daddy didn't want me to even have tenseiga, here ya go." RT had to make them fight. And Sess looked happy to take Byakuya up on his offer of leaving thee area where everyone else was, cause like others have said all non brother people would have been in the way, and nothing would be able to get resolved. I find Sess to be quite honorable in his actions. He just want to make sure that all he has learned to this point is true, and that IY is worthy of handeling all that comes with being the sucessor of father and both swords. Not sure if Rin will stay with Sess ornot. I think once all detials are hammerd out, she'll understand his madness and still wanna be by his side. Cause, the Meidou arc wasn't too long ago and I belive her and Sess still have quite the bond.  

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Dr. Sesslove

April 4, 2007 @ 7:02 am

What is Byakuya up to? Notice he whisked the battling brothers away right as Rin began to refer to Naraku's latest attack on Kohaku (she was cut off perhaps before mentioning herself). In between being tortured by Inuyasha and dodging sudden giant meidou circles from the just returned Sesshoumaru, Jaken also has not had time yet to give his usual tattle-tale report either. Fixated with "obsessing over the swords again" (haha Inu!) I don't think Sesshoumaru yet has any idea just how truly close Naraku almost got.

Sess admits this is all based on a Naraku ploy with the mirror fragment (speculated to perhaps nullify both swords), and strings are being pulled by Byakuya to draw and isolate the brothers into this battle. Now that the two brothers are fully in it, I wonder how Naraku or Byakuya intends to close the trap…

The "useless interruptions" may be gone, but I suspect a big surprise interruption is lurking that will turn the sword issue even further on its head and offer a different outcome to the ones so far suggested.  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 7:35 am

Interesting arc. A little in the "meh" department, indeed, but I expect the next chapter to be a little better.

I admit that originally, I was WTFing over Sesshoumaru's attitude, obsession over the swords, need to surpass his father, and desire for Daddy's love all at the same time, but this chapter has left me wondering…this is a Japanese "fairytale," after all, and this is the era of the warring states, so I'm wondering if this is Sess' way of acting like the "tough older brother" and testing out Inuyasha's power. We see this a lot in this type of action manga. Son always wants to surpass father, little brother always wants to surpass older brother. I think Sess is probably still a little miffed about Tenseiga's "true" meaning, yes, but I also am beginning to think this is just the normal "prove yourself worthy of the family name" test that Japanese men go through on a regular basis (or used to, at least).

That's just my two cents, taken from my historical knowledge.  

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 4, 2007 @ 7:55 am

I couldn't agree more. I belive he wants IY to hand his but to him this time to proove himself worthy and confirm was Sess, himself has been told. I mean, the last time Sess and IY appeard in the same chapter before Sess found out about his sword was the Numwarti (SP?) one. Where Sess showed off his sword's new powers to save IY from that evil body of watter. Then he insulted IY and told him he had no clue how to properly use his sword. Since then IY has been perfecting his abilities a bit more. So, this should be awesome. I also agree with Dr. Sesslovewho said something still may distract this fight. Just cause this is RT and it might not run as smoothly as we all want it to.  

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Me

April 4, 2007 @ 8:07 am

What if the both swords' powers are reversed? Last time Tess was mirrored Inu had no attacks, but maybe that's just cause the mirror monster had none to begin with. If the powers are switched and Sess is really kinda testing Inu then maybe he has to prove he's capable of using Tensaiga's Meido.  

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StarshineNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 8:55 am

Hi everyone! Never have posted here before, but being a Sess fan (run away anyone who isn´t) just had to say what I had in mind about this chapter.

1 – Sess is angry over the recent revelations, has every right to be. Anyone would feel humiliated getting disowned like that, it is never a way to lecture about "love" or "compassion". BUT angry as he may be, his own honor forces him to accept Inu Taisho´s will. Sess deeply respects his father. His angst is the best proof: we wouldn´t get upset if he didn´t care. Long ago, he tried to take Tessaiga from Inu only because he thought him unwothy. Now he knows Inu Taisho thought his youngest worthier, and an much as it pains him, he has no choice but to accept that decision…

2- But first, he really NEEDS to CONFIRM the facts.

3 – He is finding out, "Sess´ way". Naraku´s shard is perfect for this: it balances the powers of both swords, as now both can steal and be stolen, thus falling out of the equation. The two brothers are finally fighting equally. AND, think of this, this fight Sess has instigated is a no win situation for him. The only thing he can hope to gain is a confirmation of a rather painful suspicion.

4- Losing to Inu, the only thing Sess´ll get is one more wound to his pride, and he will lose Tenseiga.

5- Beating his brother, Sess will prove his father wrong in preferring Inuyasha – but it will not change the fact that he DID choose him. The swords, of course, are a sorry consolment for this, logically he will want nothing to do with them anymore.

6 – What I really hope will happen (forget me for taking the liberty to dream) is this. Sess loses to Inu (Inu being the princpal character and all)… Accepts the facts, makes a stoic face and says something along the lines of "all right, daddy loved you more, you get the swords, I´m on my way and will not bother you again…" Now that will be a real character development for him!! Hands his sword to Inu, allowing the Meidou to be absorbed just as Inu Taisho always planned… Not so out of character as you may think, just remember he venerates his father, I seem to remember he hit Inu for defiling his grave, he is just forced to accept his will now he knows it.

AND Inu says something along the lines of "phew, who cares what daddy wanted, we can sort this out between ourselves! You trained Tenseiga, you keep it, it is the only fair thing to do." Pretty noble, it may open Sess´s eyes to the fact that their relationship does not have to get overshadowed by their father´s doings.
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Just wanted to share this idea. Not saying it will happen, but… Anyone else thinks it would be great if it did?

Love
Starshine  

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Patches

April 4, 2007 @ 10:04 am

One thing that I was wondering…

In the orginal mirror monster arc, whenever the mirror monster was hit, Kanna took the damage. I wonder if someone else is going to take the damage here, too (either Sess or Byakuya, but I can't see why Byakuya would do something like that to himself).  

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PlinyNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 10:13 am

Starshine-
Welcome, and nice post! That would be nice if that happened, but don't you think Sessh would have trouble accepting Inu's "charity" by giving back Tenseiga?

Also, if this is a test to see if Inu is capable of being master of both swords, it seems an unbalanced fight as he has a useless sword — Sessh holds all the cards, so where is the honor of defeating an unarmed man? What I mean is, if Inu un-armed loses to the Super-Ten-Tessaiga-Mutant-Awesomeness what does that prove? But, since we all know the name of the manga, I guess we'll see just how it might be possible for Inu to win under these odds, and just what that means.

I really hope RT wraps this up in a satisfactory way – one that "feels" right, and doesn't feel rushed. And I think she will. …I hope.

PS- It crossed my mind that the whole group will end up traveling together now… But that just doesn't seem right, does it?  

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PlinyNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 10:16 am

RE: Alexis
"whether or not inu will win or not we know that shesshumaru will not die because he is the only one that can defeat naroko and it is his destanie that he will defeat him. his destiny to defeat naroko was realized by that dead girl (cant remember her name) he was unable to save."

The dead girl- Kagura? But all of the characters in the InuCrew have a reason just as legitimate, and some even more compelling than this. That's why they have been trailing Mr.Kukuku for these past 10 years…  

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EliseNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 10:41 am

I still dont see why Sesshomaru would allow himself to be the pawn of Naraku. It just ticks me off.  

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StevenNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 12:09 pm

RE: Pliny
"Also, if this is a test to see if Inu is capable of being master of both swords, it seems an unbalanced fight as he has a useless sword — Sessh holds all the cards, so where is the honor of defeating an unarmed man? What I mean is, if Inu un-armed loses to the Super-Ten-Tessaiga-Mutant-Awesomeness what does that prove?"

Actually, Inuyasha was in the same situation a few chapters ago – and he won, naturally. The fact of the matter is, I do not quite see what makes this fight so interesting; from this point of view, it is almost redundant. :/
Things do not look good for Sesshomaru, as Starshine said, it is really a no-win situation for him. I hope that something happens that keeps this fight from going down the "predefined" route, or I would be truly disappointed.  

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DavidNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 2:00 pm

Sesshoumaru is clearly testing Inuyasha. He wants to see for himself that Inuyasha has grown strong enough to deserve teh complete tesseiga. By using the mirror shard and robbing tesseiga of it's power, he has forced Inuyasha to fight for himself. It would appear that the only power left in the real tesseiga. For the most part, when Inuyasha has acquired a new power, he has has to earn it, and he has not earned it through force alone. Sesshoumaru is not worried about pride or honor right now. He has (probably) realized that he needs to abandon the swords and realize his own power. This was foreshadowed the last time Totosai appeared. But, as others have said, he wasn't just going to lay tenseiga at Inuyasha's feet and allow his brother to simply shatter the sword. Also, it is clear that Sesshoumaru is not obsessed with the sword. Otherwise why would he say he would cast it aside even if Inuyasha loses?  

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DavidNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 2:01 pm

P.S. the only power left in tesseiga appears to be the barrier.  

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Dashfox1

April 4, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

On the bonus color page who is that canine yokai on the left of the noh mask picture?  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 3:29 pm

I'm guessing that's Inu-Papa in that picture?

Also, agreeing with David here, as that was pretty much the same idea I had in mind.  

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Tara

April 4, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

I feel rather let down. This chapter felt so unnatural…  

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Azula

April 4, 2007 @ 3:53 pm

I say translate the bonus pages! =O I was wondering what they said. XD

The chapter didn't let me down that much… only makes me more excited for the next one. I wish chapters could come out everyday — maaan that would be total awesomeness. XD *shot*

Sesshoumaru is getting on my nerves now. -_- I agree with what David a few posts above me said, but after all Inuyasha went through protecting his friends and acquiring new abilities and all that… doesn't he deserve it? DD8

Too bad they isolated themselves – it would've been cool to see Rin scolding Sesshoumaru. x33  

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ArvaelNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 5:01 pm

Hehe… anyone noticed that the English translation of the title is of the last chapter, 499, not this one?^^"
(see, it's midnight and what's the thing I notice first?ˇˇ") ~sigh~  

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StarksNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 5:37 pm

>>3353

Fixed and thanks for catching that… I use the previous week's post as a template in order to preserve formatting. I see I was a bit careless.  

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Dashfox1

April 4, 2007 @ 5:57 pm

It does match up with the skeleton. Never thought Rumiko would show him..  

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NekozumiNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 7:20 pm

Wow, I was on a break for 2 years from Inuyasha and so much happened since I last read the chapters!

Really looking forward to see what will happen next   

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Anonymous

April 4, 2007 @ 8:12 pm

Dashfox1
Um that picture beside the noh mask is not Inuyasha's father. One of the pictures is Sesshoumaru's mother the other picture is a weasel/wolf demon that I think came out of the tsubaski(?)
But I would like to see Sesshoumaru's mom like that in color with a full picture. Anyone know where to find something like that XD  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 8:30 pm

Ah, had forgotten about the weasel thing.

Too bad though…I'd still like to see a picture of Inu-Papa in all of his "glory".  

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Dashfox1

April 4, 2007 @ 8:42 pm

Really because i remember it not wearing any cloths. But oh well*shrugs*  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 9:08 pm

Hello Starshine! Glad to meet another another Sessho-fan! You are welcome to join our Sessho Fan Club here, with me, Mental_Butterfly, Arvael and others. :)

I agree with you totally, as well as with David who posted later. I had said the same things in my earlier post, and I wanted to add that I also agree that Sesshomaru wants Inuyasha to prove his worth without the use of all his upgrades, just his own power.  

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Mental_ButterflyNo Gravatar

April 4, 2007 @ 10:39 pm

As Irene said, Starshine, Willkommen to our little Sesshoumaru Club, and well posted, although I agree with Pliny that it'd be out of character for Sessh to accept the Tenseiga back from Inuyasha. Perhaps Inuyasha may offer it, but Sessh'll still refuse it? Once he's managed to let Tenseiga go it'd be pointless for him to keep it – any value it may have had for him would be nullified.

As to Elise's comment about Sessh being Naraku's pawn, I think it's a little more complicated than that. I think Sesshoumaru is using Naraku using him as a way to test out Papa's crazy sword-inheritance roulette. Ever seen House of Flying Daggers, where everyone is leading everyone else on for some other purpose? It's not that Sessh is cooperating with Naraku, he's just making use of the opportunity that's been presented. Very pragmatic of him, really.

The question that exists for me now is: What's happening to everyone who wasn't whisked off by Byakuya's magic inter-dimensional bottle of Perrier?
Are Kagome and everyone else just hanging out, or are they going to be in danger now, too? It'd be Naraku's prime chance to take out 85% of his opposition. And Shippou, too.  

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ArvaelNo Gravatar

April 5, 2007 @ 2:30 am

Oooo… too much comments, I won't be able to catch up now @.@
So, sorry if I repeat sy else's thoughts^^"

Anyway, the way I see it, Sesshoumaru wants to test Inuyasha's power. If he isn't strong enough, he doesn't deserve Tessaiga (and Tenseiga's powers…), in Sesshoumaru's point of view. And that's why Sessh-sama would throw them away.
One the other hand, if Inuyasha does deserve such a sword in his (Sessh's) opinion, then proves he can use it. I think it's some sort of exam made by Sesshoumaru for Inuyasha to see if he could use both Tessaiga and Tenseiga. Sesshoumaru doesn't want to give his sword (or its power???) willingly to Inuyasha, at least not until he knows it would be in good care / use.
That's what came to me when I read this week's chapter. What do you think?^^"  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 5, 2007 @ 2:36 am

>>Mental_Butterfly
Oh man, I saw House of the Flying Daggers, it was so awesome, yet sad! Everyone in that movie was more than they appeared to be, everyone was undercover in some respect. But the ending was sad, funny how all the asian movies I own, have sad endings….

But anyway, I agree that Sesshomaru is too smart to get used by Naraku again. That was the reason that he's going after him in the first place, because Naraku used him! I think Sesshomaru has a bigger plan in mind, and he's going to use Byakuya and Naraku rather than the other way around.  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 5, 2007 @ 7:23 am

"It’d be Naraku’s prime chance to take out 85% of his opposition. And Shippou, too."

Hehe, M_B, not too harsh, right? Poor little fuzzy comic-relief character. ;)   

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 5, 2007 @ 8:08 am

Wow, I missed so much. I agree with everyone who has said Sess has a plan. I actualy wouldn't put it past RT to use this arc just to get naraku somehow back in the picture to prepare for the final battle. If that happens, then maybe tensiega will just be absorbwed naturaly the next time it does a full mediou battling alonside IY's Tessaig. Not saying this will happen, but it could. Anything is possible right now.

And, if Shippou somehow pulls out a great attack out of nowhere in the end, I'll be a bit dissapointed just cause, where the hell did he learn this, and why didn't he get a freakin power up chapter to show him learning this shit first!?  

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 5, 2007 @ 8:41 pm

Chapter 501 Kanryū (Backflow)

Getting attacked continuously by Sesshomaru who obtains Tessaiga's power, InuYasha finally transforms himself. Then, an unexpected thing happens…

I really want a full preview.  

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AnonymousNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 3:54 am

Ah, we know how much Kagura "means" to Sess by now. -_- He ignored her death-wish and using Naraku's help.  

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npNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

Naraku and Sess are both using each other to accomplish their goals. It's not a one-way thing.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

RE: Comment by np April 6, 2007 @ 1:56 pm

"Naraku and Sess are both using each other to accomplish their goals. It’s not a one-way thing."

i agree with NP, it's not a one way thing. those two despies eachother. espechially sessumaru, i think more than his younger half brother. narako hates everybody, and sesshumaro is near the top of his list. by the way is he still lusting for kikyo or has he realized its never gunna happen, because if he is she is safe from naroko or safer than the others.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 2:45 pm

RE: Comment by Pliny April 4, 2007 @ 10:16 am

if you get off your lazy ass and read some of my other coments that youl realize i realize that. oh and by the way with the Mr. Kukuku, i'm a female and if you call me that again im gunna have ta bust your head opean!!!!!!!  

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npNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

Mr. Kukuku was Naraku, Alexis. Pliny wasn't referring to you as Mr. Kukuku. When Naraku laughs he "kukukukus".  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 4:15 pm

Uh…"Mr. Kukuku" = Naraku. Not you.

As far as "lazy asses" go, perhaps you should get off yours, and learn some comprehension and spelling skills. Yeesh.

And now back to your regularly-scheduled dose of daily drama! :D   

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Mental_ButterflyNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 6:00 pm

Oy vey, here we go with the spazz-outs again. Can we keep it relatively respectful this time? Engaging debate is far more rewarding than juvenile squabbling.

KagomeKagome: It's not that I don't like Shippou, he provides some decent comic relief, but he doesn't do anything at all when non-comic-relief things are going on.
Besides, it's gotta get tough for the Inu-gang always having that kid hanging off of their shoulders – my rat only weighs 2 pounds and even he gets burdensome after fifteen minutes or so. Of course, Shippou's way younger than Jasper – he's so old and arthritic that I have to keep adjusting my own balance so he doesn't slip. I really shouldn't let him shoulder-ride anymore, but he loves it so much.

Irene: Definitely Sessh is tto smart to get used by Naraku again, but what if Naraku is using Sesshoumaru using Naraku pretending to use Sesshoumaru? Does that make any sense? Maybe this'll clarify: The mirror shard trick may be a ruse to make Sessh believe he's using Naraku's attempted manipulation of him to his own advantage, when in actuality Naraku is using the whole scheme as a distraction of some sort. Out of that distraction might, I believe, develop the final battle. I know, I know, we won't know anything until next week. (And even then we'll probably still have no clue as to what's going on, right?)
I love it when other people have heard of my crazy Chinese martial arts flicks. House of Fying Daggers has to be one of my favorite movies. Zhang Yimou in general has to be my favorite director, and Takeshi Kaneshiro = Gorgeous!  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 6, 2007 @ 8:37 pm

Oh, you misunderstood me! :) I was merely laughing at your statement. Shippou is comic relief in my eyes, too. I liked the character when he first popped up, but for the last few years, he's been nothing but a background pest. :(   

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Anonymous

April 6, 2007 @ 10:41 pm

Yin-Yan Heart Please dont randomly post preview / spoilers like that.

Starks clearly marks the spoilers section because some people dont want to know what happens until they read it.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 1:20 am

pliny, o.k. maby i over reacted, i was having a bad day. sorry for yelling at you for the mr.kukuku and accusing your ass or being lazy. buy seriously i'm bad enoutht with names already, and to give nicknames to already hard to remember names is kinda hard, i cant remember nick names i'm trying to remember names as it is, espechially names of fictional charactores. so plese keep the names to remeko's. thanks.
and no im not retarded im just bad w/ names, im bussy and i dont have time to remember every caracters name.
agen sorry having a bad day.

see i'm not a total bitch i can be reasonable.

oh and by the way kagomekagome, i have dyslexia and i kept it to my self no one even know and when i told my parent when i was younger they didn't believe me, i had to teach my self how to read and wright all on my with the same resources that kids w/o learning disabilities. and no one even suspected till grade 10 where i demanded to get tested by the counsler where i thought their was a posibility i might have mild form of dylexia. whell to my surprize i came out as a sever case, so i think i componsate quite well for my disability.

p.s. pliny my disability may have coused me to read a few things wrong causeng me to interperate the meaning a bit. no grudge over here just a girl who had a bad day and you did nothing wrong. and im not lazy either teaching myself to read all these years, your not.  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 7:56 am

I understand, but I have family members and friends with the same problem, and they just try harder. It's no excuse for threatening to "bust someone's head open" over your own mistake.

Also, you aren't the only one here with a disability. I have several, and I don't let them stop me. ;)

Anyway, that's enough real life drama for me. On to drama, Inuyasha-style!  

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Myrrhte

April 7, 2007 @ 8:39 am

I'm not sure about Sesshoumaru's actions right now, I know there has to be some meaning behind it. If only he could me a little more nice to Rin. While she has the gang to protect her now, he still left her to Naruko to go and 'obsess about the swords' some more.
And I also think Naraku has plans with them, why else would Byakuya lift them up in the air? Kagome should just osuwari them back to ground level. ^^  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 1:55 pm

>>Mental_Butterfly
I seriously don't think Naraku is THAT smart. If he was smart, he wouldn't keep pissing off everyone he comes in contact with.

>>Next Chapter: 501:Chapter 501 Kanryū (Backflow)

"Getting attacked continuously by Sesshomaru who obtains Tessaiga's power, InuYasha finally transforms himself. Then, an unexpected thing happens…"

Inuyasha's going to transform again! How will Sessho take it this time?  

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PlinyNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 3:51 pm

"Chapter 501 Kanryū (Backflow"

Backflow from what, I wonder? I can't wait for the next chapter! ^_^

Also, just out of curiosity: where do the chapter spoilers come from? Are they leaked somehow? I've been pondering that…
Also-
It very well may be that my ass is lazy. It is always just sitting on chairs and sofas – when I go for a jog, it just rides along… Really, though, I'm not sure what is required of a truly industrious ass.
Joking, joking… Alexis- It's cool. I take no offense.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 5:30 pm

Very interesting looking preview. Something unexpected… Like Sesshoumaru falling into a bottomless pit and Inuyasha spontaneously combusting?

Maybe.  

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Anonymous

April 7, 2007 @ 6:08 pm

LYS…Nah more like sesshoumaru admitting he loves Inuyasha and Inuyasha admitting he had the same feelings ever since he cut sesshoumaru's arm off.
j/k  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 6:36 pm

Awww. I wanted to see someone spontaneously combust.

:(   

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 7, 2007 @ 8:47 pm

*Spontaneously combusts then reforms* Happy, Lys? Sorry, but that was the best i could do at the moment. god, I hope the full spoiler preview will be posted soon.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 7, 2007 @ 9:30 pm

Yes! Random people combust for me! Behold my awesome firey power! Either that, or I just randomly set Yin-Yang…. Sorry about that….

Alright, enough of that. I don't know if I even will read the spoiler preview when we do get it. My gut tells me I want it to be a complete surprise, but those are just my tastes.  

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Feyd

April 7, 2007 @ 10:26 pm

Yah I hope that Inmuyasha is going to take hold of tensaiga finally. He deserves it. He has been patient and although takahashi is screwing with us trying to make us think he is immature we all know he is mature and noble. As noble as sesshomaru saving rin. People give sesshomaru a lot of credit for being the most consistently intelligent and solid character..but his brother is another facet of the demonm world we all love :> hook it up takahashi! :>  

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SkyNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 2:25 am

#3413

I don't know about everyone else, but i'll be really sad when Inuyasha gets the tenseiga.  

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StevenNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 6:29 am

Same here. It would be surprising and/or out of character for Inuyasha to even accept it, I feel. :/  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 9:49 am

So there's always the mystery about how it's going to happen. I haven't a clue because I agree with you guys; Even if Sesshoumaru loses this fight, he might still be reluctant to give up Tenseiga, that being the only thing we know of that he has of his father's. And Inuyasha wouldn't be able to just take it, knowing what kind of sympathy he has for his brother in this situation as of now. Perhaps Inuyasha will accidentally kill Sesshoumaru and have to bring him back with Tenseiga, making him fully worthy of Sesshoumaru's sword in his own eyes.

Just a guess.  

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EliseNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 10:46 am

Can Demons be brought back with Tenseiga? Or just humans?  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 12:14 pm

Yeah, Jaken was brought back with Tenseiga, and he's a demon.

Or maybe he's just a malformed dog…. either way, not human. :)   

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 8, 2007 @ 2:11 pm

LOL. Nice Lys. Jaken is too ugly to be a malformed dog. But yeah he got bought back once. At least he's kept up with the comic relief. Otherwise, what good his he for the most part?  

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StarksNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 2:39 pm

Jaken is an imp demon…  

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Dr. Sesslove

April 8, 2007 @ 2:40 pm

Ack! Demon Inuyasha…the gloves are coming off now! Feral Demon Inuyasha instinctively hates his brother even more rabidly than Normal Inuyasha. How are they going to get out of this one?

Sesshoumaru: Inuyasha, you have proved your worth to me.

Demon Inuyasha: Rowr…kill kill kill!

Sess: Here is Tenseiga. Rin added this flower charm bracelet as well. Make me and Father proud and win one for the Gipper.

Demon Inuyasha: -foams at mouth- Blood blood BLOOD!

Sess: I…I love you, brother.

Demon Inuyasha: Oh Gawd, please, somebody put me out of my misery. I am not listening to this. Rumiko, what do you think you are doing? I'm supposed to kill him and absorb Tenseiga's powers. I don't care what the written script and captions say, there is NO way I am going to hug him! Curse it all, how do I commit ritual suicide with Tenseiga!  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 3:26 pm

"At least he’s kept up with the comic relief. Otherwise, what good his he for the most part?"

Actually, I'll admit that I'm not against Jaken as a character at all. Yes, comic relief, which I absolutely adore, but he's also as persistent as any other character. He puts up with a whole lot of crap; I'm surprised we haven't seen him get fed up and skip out on Sesshoumaru yet.

"Jaken is an imp demon…"

Uh… yeah. Yeah he is. Thanks for clearing that one up there, Starks.

"Demon Inuyasha: Rowr…kill kill kill!"

I'll be willing to bet that he still keeps his consciousness, considering we're dealing with a fragment of Kanna's mirror golem, ultimately. He'll probably be transforming to put more power behind the original Tessaiga again, or something to that effect. Then again, you never know with Takahashi….  

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EliseNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 3:44 pm

That's my guess…that the sword will be taking all of Inuyasha's demon power, so his mind could stay somewhat intact. Well, here's to hoping anyway.  

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Irene ShardaNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 4:52 pm

Actually, we have to remember that the last few times Inuyasha has transformed, he hasn't gone feral, just his looks changed. His mind was still there. So maybe it's just his strength that advances?  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 7:13 pm

what i sead befor the two half brothers being estrained and the fights and fight now comes from problames with their father. sesshumaru is fighting his father not inuyasha, only his father is dead so he needs some mediom to focus his anger and a scapegoat from his own demonds.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 7:16 pm

oh and to the people who run the websight, pleeezzzzzzeee get the next chapter up :)   

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PlinyNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

"Sess: Here is Tenseiga. Rin added this flower charm bracelet as well. Make me and Father proud and win one for the Gipper."

Too funny. Though, when was the last time Rin made a flower chain? Rin! You have *one* job to do- get on it! ^_^

Alexis- I don't think the new chapters come out until Tuesday, but when they come out, these guys are incredibly fast at getting them scanlated to us adoring fans. Great job, guys, and mille grazie!  

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Feyd

April 8, 2007 @ 9:09 pm

I think that Takahashi should…maybe stop tiptoeing around some ded-serious issues. she always clears things up in her own way. but these kohaku and brothers/swords problems have been around since the inception. my opinion: people liked the sesshomaru/kohaku characters too much for her to ever conclude their storylines. this is the reason why it's taken so long for the swords to have one owner, as intended, and kohaku to die…as must happen.  

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DavidNo Gravatar

April 8, 2007 @ 9:33 pm

I'm thinking the Kohaku arc will actually initiate the final battle. As he is the bearer of the final shard, another confrontation between he and Naraku is inevitable. It seems to me to be the perfect set up to end the series with. Hopefully we will see the end of the conflict over the swords whenever this arc concludes.  

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Yume

April 9, 2007 @ 7:44 am

3424 & 3425
-Actually… Jaken is a Kappa.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 9:29 am

Is there actually any confirmation on what Jaken really is? I'm sure it says so in a character book or something of that nature, but I've never actually seen one (not that I could read one in Japanese).

I'm just wondering where we're getting our information here, because I've heard many opinions on what the little guy is.  

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mangoNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

I'm wondering if RT will really kill off miroku. and if she doesnt, how will he get healed? i was actually thinking about the medicine man a few volumes back, the one that sucked sango's blood so that he could become a mosquito again..and since that 'medicine' (probably in sango's blood) is supposed to heal miroku, i think that's what RT will use it to make miroku survive.  

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Anonymous

April 9, 2007 @ 3:11 pm

>>Next Chapter: 501:Chapter 501 Kanryū (Backflow)

“Getting attacked continuously by Sesshomaru who obtains Tessaiga’s power, InuYasha finally transforms himself. Then, an unexpected thing happens…”

InuYasha transforms into 4 little Kappa (Jaken-type) Demons with big chibi eyes that start dancing and singing in perfect choreography. (Or in perfect however you spell that word.) Sess gives back the sword to quote… "Oh, god take it, just please make it stop."  

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DavidNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 3:11 pm

Mango: I have no idea what will happen to Miroku, but keep in mind that Inuyasha will absorb tenseiga shortly, so he can simply revive him if he died. Also, I guess if Naraku is defeated before Miroku dies that the wind tunnel and poison will disappear. I hope that will happen at least.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 5:25 pm

"InuYasha transforms into 4 little Kappa (Jaken-type) Demons with big chibi eyes that start dancing and singing in perfect choreography. (Or in perfect however you spell that word.) Sess gives back the sword to quote… “Oh, god take it, just please make it stop.”"

No way. Now how is Inuyasha going to defeat Naraku? With the Awesome Chibi Attack? I think that might work better if he had more of them. How about the number changes from 4 to 42? That might do the trick.

Something just occurred to me. What if the Inu No Taishou suddenly pays a visit to his sons from beyond the grave? I don't know how that would happen… perhaps he uses Tenseiga or Tessaiga as a medium. I would certainly LIKE to see it, but I doubt it will happen. :(   

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umbraNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 6:58 pm

This is the worse and the most disappointing episode I've read.  

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umbraNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 7:00 pm

This is the worst and the most disappointing episode I’ve read.  

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SkyNo Gravatar

April 9, 2007 @ 7:12 pm

#3448

Yes, Rumiko made a twist i do not like when she revealed that Inu Yasha will own both swords.
Inu Yasha is already powerful it seems a bit unncessary to give him the tenseiga. I mean really, Inuyasha using Sesshumaru's signature attack? what's next? Inuyasha learning how to do Shippou's magic?  

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Starshine

April 10, 2007 @ 1:20 pm

I couldn´t help but notice that a couple of people seem to think that Inuyasha is perfectly deserving of having both Tessaiga and Tenseiga merged together. You may have no love lost for Sesshoumaru, but don´t you think Takahashi would completely ruin Inuyasha by having him accept so dirty a deal? It is not about simply absorbing some random youkai´s power, it´s about tricking Sess into seeing the worth of Tenseiga, into mastering it and coming to depend on it – he does seem rather proud of his Meidou -, than snatch it from him. Such a parasitic modus operandi… No author would make her main character behave so un-heroically.

PS – whatever. Actually I was just checking if ep 501 is here already.
PPS – sorry for any grammar mistakes. Only studied English at school.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 1:57 pm

3452: I don't necessarily see it that way. I mean, what you say implies that the Inu No Taishou was a completely evil and unfair father who did all this to spite Sesshoumaru (what, with all the talk of "tricking" and such) on purpose, and that's not fair to him either. If anything, we know less about him than both the brothers put together, so we shouldn't be able to really put a lable on him yet.

I believe there's still a possibility that the Inu No Taishou didn't foresee the effect that this would be having on Sesshoumaru or Inuyasha. I mean, if you think about it, you could see him as a father who just wanted the best for the son that he percieved as "weaker" (because of his status as Hanyou) and got a little carried away. It's certainly not a GOOD thing that he overcompensated Inuyasha for his disadvantages, but sometimes we don't see the whole picture. Sometimes all parents see are threats that they have to protect their young from, and though I'm sure it was a little confusing to the Inu-Daddy, he saw his elder son as one of those threats.

There are also reasons why Sesshoumaru SHOULD have the sword taken away from him, for his own betterment, such as not relying so much on his father's precedents to guide him in his search for power and to following his own perimeters of development, which means not depending so much on Tenseiga for guidance. I think I discussed this in another LONG post some chapters back, though.

BTW: You're pretty good at English for only having studied it in school. I'm impressed!  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 2:23 pm

I think I understand the reasoning behind why Sess is to give up Tenseiga (if this is more than just another "I'm pulling something out of my ass again" Takahashi moment), but that doesn't mean it settles well with me. Having him master the damn sword only to give it to Inuyasha because he must discover his own inner strength to surpass his father…well, I just think it's bullshit. I'd be pissed, too. What's the point of learning the technique then?

Eh, this is typical of this kind of manga though (and I've read a lot in my nearly 30 years, heh). If Sess truly wishes to surpass his father, he must rely on his own inner strength and not something his father bequeathed him. It doesn't seem fair, but everything in ancient Japan is about honor, after all (even if it doesn't always seem that way).  

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Starshine

April 10, 2007 @ 2:51 pm

Hm, I see the point of "giving up a father´s memento to find one´s own road". It´s probably a true reasoning. But… seeing as Sesshoumaru was a loner walking his own road at the beginning and thought nothing of Tenseiga for a very long time, I took his acceptance of his father´s sword and his "relying" – however tiny it could be – on InuTaisho´memory as a betterment. Probably that´s why it irks me so much that it can be taken from him.

Love  

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Feyd

April 10, 2007 @ 4:48 pm

Let's not forget here: However much Sesshomaru has matured since his father's death his father is not able to see this. Inu-diasho's last memory of Sesshomaru is of him trying to kill him >…  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

3454: "but that doesn’t mean it settles well with me." Not saying that it sits well with me either. I'm sure it doesn't sit entirely well with Sesshoumaru either, but the thing here is that we can understand why this happened (or may have happened, considering this is simply a theory of mine). That is probably Sesshoumaru's ultimate goal, after all; I don't think he'll ever be OKAY with it, along with a lot of us who know the Inu No Taishou could have done something different, but at least he can understand why it has all happened.

3455: "seeing as Sesshoumaru was a loner walking his own road at the beginning and thought nothing of Tenseiga for a very long time"

DID he think nothing of Tenseiga though? Sesshoumaru doesn't seem to need a lot, and he travels with almost nothing, discarding that which is unneeded. You would think that if he thought that Tenseiga was truly worthless, he might have tossed it a long time ago. Of course, he thought it was useless in BATTLE, but the sentimental value of the sword was also there, which might have been why he kept it for so long without ever thinking to use it. How highly he thinks (or thought, as the case may be now) of his father should be an indicator to the attitude that anything given to Sesshoumaru by his father would be treasured.

3458: "Inu-diasho’s last memory of Sesshomaru is of him trying to kill him"

When was this? I'm afraid I don't recall….  

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Mental_ButterflyNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

We don't know for sure what happened the last time Papa and Sesshoumaru met – the third movie posits its own version, but since the third movie only barely lines up with the canonical storyline its version of that last meeting is unauthoritative to say the least. If RT wants us to find out what Papa thought of Sesshoumaru, she'll tell us.

I think Sesshoumaru's journey is taking a decidedly Buddhist turn – in order to gain power, he must give up desires and grievances. Tenseiga represents all of the things he's been holding on to all this time. Granted, power and enlightenment are two very different things, but maybe the rewards are different for youkai since they're lower in the Buddhist spiritual heirarchy. It would explain why Sesshoumaru's dog-form looks so much like a Fu – one of those Chinese guard-dog statues, they're the mythical protectors of dharma – his form is a hint as to the nature of his job as a character in the story. Or, he's just a big, fuzzy Labrador designed to make fangirls squeal.  

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EliseNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 5:51 pm

That's a really interesting way of looking at Sesshomaru's character MB…very interesting indeed. I guess it really helps to have a knowledge of ancient Japanese culture and what not. But, my question is what does Naraku have to gain from this other than distraction? he is the one setting this confrontation up…yes, maybe its to get a clear hit at kagome, miroku, kohaku, and the others…but does he honestly think the brothers will kill themselves in battle?  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 6:26 pm

I agree with you, MB, as you just elaborated on what I was thinking. That, and personally, I couldn't help but giggle a little at the "big, fuzzy Labrador" line. Imagine cleaning up after Sesshoumaru! :D   

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Inuyashagirl234

April 10, 2007 @ 7:17 pm

I don't get it! Inuyasha doen't have the skill,brains, or brains that Sesshoumaru has, and yet Inuyasha seems to be getting all the power handed to him. Although, Sesshoumaru is being a bit whiny and obsessive, I think I can understand where he is coming. I mean, Sesshoumaru dream was to kill his dad, which means his dad was ,in Sesshoumaru's mind, the most powerful demon there was. Probably, growing up, Sesshoumaru tried to be powerful so he could be seen as an equal in his dad's eyes. Now, Inuyasha, a half demon, and "the reason his dad died", seems to be getting everything Sessy worked so hard for given to him, and it seems like Inudaddy loved him the most. I'd be pissed too! On a funnier note, if Inuyasha transformed into a dog, do you think he would be a big fuzzy labrador….or a chihuahua?!^_^  

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KagomeKagomeNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 7:30 pm

I've always pictured Inuyasha as a nice silvery-white Akita…but I love Akitas and their pointed ears.  

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Mental_ButterflyNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 7:44 pm

I think Inuyasha would be a mutt – part Akita or Shiba Inu for his body. He's sort of dumb and obsessive-compulsive, so he'd be part Springer Spaniel – my neighbor has one, it barks at anything. Seriously, I once saw it barking at a dead leaf in its yard. And since he's noble and loyal, but equally loud and obnoxious, I'd have to say he'd also be part German Shepherd. I have a Shepherd mix, and you can't shut those dogs up. She's loyal to a fault, though, especially if you have bacon with you.  

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LysNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 8:05 pm

*drool*

Bacon… Oh, see now you got me started!

Personally, I can't imagine Inuyasha having a dog form. he's just… Inuyasha. Already a mutt: part dog part human, and another part dense, lol! I'm kidding. I love Inuyasha.

Of course, I could be saying that because I don't know anything about dogs and don't want to wing it, ha!  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 10, 2007 @ 11:56 pm

RE: Mental_Butterfly

If RT wants us to find out what Papa thought of Sesshoumaru, she’ll tell us.

she douse, with how he was treated as a lasting type of emotional will. for example planning on leaving sesshomaru w/ nothing and his coldness and disaproval of him during life. and all the things he finds out about his father and his thoughts of him after his death and what he tought of him and gave him and valued him as a son, and how he treated him in his linger presance after his death. he showes he favored inuyasha. also thats why sesshoumaru hates inuyasha, because he is really angry and hurt at his fathers crulity. you cant blame him. another example to find out that only his father did not intend to have the tetseiga, but gave sesshomaru a sword weaker that he know would be viewed in sesshoumarous eyes but as a sick joke later to find not only did he get the weaker of the two swords but he got nothing and inuyasha ingerated everything.  

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Anon

April 11, 2007 @ 12:41 am

Yeah, you really can't blame Sess. He is actually quite justified in his rage.
1. His father concieved a child with a woman (human nonetheless) that is not his mother.
2. His father's death was caused (at least partially) by said woman.
3. Traditions in those times had the father bequething his estate, title, and possessions to his eldest son. Instead Sess gets bypassed in favor of his half breed (generally viewed as lower than full fledged demons) younger brother.
4. The sword he did inherit and has carryed for so long was only given so he could master a dangerous technique, after which it should be absorbed again by his brother's sword, leaving Sess with nothing.
5. He is both smarter and more powerful than Inuyasha, why was he skipped over? (It is clear he had great respect, and perhaps love for his father so this probably hurts a lot)

Anyone would feel the same away.

On another note, if would be ridiculous and completely illogical if Inuyasha (basically unarmed)could defeat Sess with both swords' powers. Past encounters have shown, that the tetsiega has really been the only reason Inuyasha could match up against Sess.

Oh well, we'll see what happens…  

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AnonNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 12:45 am

Yeah, you really can't blame Sess. He is actually quite justified in his rage.
1. His father concieved a child with a woman (human nonetheless) that is not his mother.
2. His father's death was caused (at least partially) by said woman.
3. Traditions in those times had the father bequething his estate, title, and possessions to his eldest son. Instead Sess gets bypassed in favor of his half breed (generally viewed as lower than full fledged demons) younger brother.
4. The sword he did inherit and has carryed for so long was only given so he could master a dangerous technique, after which it should be absorbed again by his brother's sword, leaving Sess with nothing.
5. He is both smarter and more powerful than Inuyasha, why was he skipped over? (It is clear he had great respect, and perhaps love for his father so this probably hurts a lot)

Anyone would feel the same away.

On another note, if would be ridiculous and completely illogical if Inuyasha (basically unarmed)could defeat Sess with both swords' powers. Past encounters have shown, that the tetsiega has really been the only reason Inuyasha could match up against Sess.

What was the father's intentions? Was he just trying to be horribly cruel to Sess, or does he have something greater in mind for him? What did Totusai's saying "You will surpass your father" mean?

Oh well, we'll see what happens…  

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lemonlime

April 11, 2007 @ 1:00 am

I can't remember, does it ever mention Inuyasha's mother being the cause of his death in the manga?

To be fair, while I agree that Sesshoumaru has a right to be upset, his father didn't do this just to be cruel. He wanted to show him that there is more to life then power and by letting go of Inu-taishou's treasured swords, he can learn new things from his own strength and become a much greater youkai then his father. Inuyasha needed this to survive and with each upgrade he's learned the same lessons..only in a different way. That poor boy has had a much tougher life then Sesshoumaru.
Once Inu-taishou died he and his mother were left in deep poverty.  

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Chapter 501 anyone>

April 11, 2007 @ 5:41 am

Hey, does anyone know anything about Chapter 501? Is it even coming out this week? It's just that usually by this time of the week (Wednesday) there is at least some kind of announcement or sneak-peek of the chapter, if it hasnt been scanlated yet.  

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Chapter 501 anyone?

April 11, 2007 @ 5:53 am

About the whole Mirouko thing – he wont die if they kill Naraku beforehand. It wont be necessary to heal his wounds since he feels no pain from them and they only pose a threat to his life if they reach his heart. Once Naraku is gone, the hole in his hand will close thus making it impossible for him to suck up anymore poison and the wounds will never progress to a life-threatening position.

On another note, about Inuyasha transforming – Tessaiga is suppossed to help Inuyasha keep control over his demon-half. He has only ever lost his mind when he transformed away from Tessaiga. If Inuyasha transforms while holding Tessaiga, hopefully it will just be a huge power boost like when they broke out of that demons belly using the Jewel Shard.  

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Yin-Yang Heart

April 11, 2007 @ 7:03 am

3471

I think ch 501 is comming out this week. There was a preview for it translated on InuYasha.org. And it didn't say it was gonna be taking a break. Hopefuly it get posted some time today or tomorrow at latest.  

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Mental_Butterfly

April 11, 2007 @ 8:56 am

Alexis: Sesshoumaru believes Inuyasha was favored, and that he'll be left with nothing. We have no hard evidence in the text to back up that assertion beyond the fact that for the present time Inuyasha seems to be favored – at no point has anyone other than Sesshoumaru stated that Papa intended to leave him nothing. Sessh is en emotional basket-case at the moment, therefore his word can't quite be taken at face value.

Papa himself is an ambiguity. Everything we know about him comes to us second-hand, from Myouga, Toutousai, Sesshoumaru, Sessmom, and a bit from Inuyasha. Thanks to this there's very little hard evidence concerning his opinions about either of his sons – the whole bit with the swords is coincidental, and can be interpreted any way you want. Me, I like to go with a psychoanalytical interpretation.

So Papa's sort of like Clytemnestra in the Odyssey – an over-arching figure who never appears physically, about whom only the barest information is given, yet her presence sets up a theme (That of betrayal in marriage) that resonates throughout the rest of the story. You don't know anything about her except what the narrative and characters tell you. Papa's the same way, he may even be an adulterer. We don't know.

In summary, unless Papa has stated it himself, we have no way of knowing what his actual intentions were – none of the characters acquainted with him is able to speak for him, because none of them know exactly what he was thinking. RT is fond of twists out of left-field, don't be suprised if there's one coming up.

There. That's my semi-New Critical approach to reading manga. Which earlier in this post I referred to as a 'text'. Damn, I need to just get my Lit. degree and graduate already. Only two more months!  

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Feyd

April 11, 2007 @ 10:12 am

first off: why are my posts being cut in half? I type like 3 paragraphs not even a whole one shows up >..  

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vanilla kidNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 10:45 am

hey. i'm a newbie. just discovered this goldmine a few weeks ago and have been hooked ever since. patches , thanks a lot. i was really panicking when the anime ended. and mental butterfly i really love your posts. u a literature student too?
anyway i (grudgingly) agree with the masses. sesshoumaru is getting annoying with his anti-pops anti-bro angsty attitude. but then i also get the feeling there is a lot more to this battle than just anger and hurt. cant take his comment on face value(rf. "there is merit to falling in this trap")
but most importantly ….where is chapter 501. i'v been waiting al week for it and boy has it been a long wait.  

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vanilla kidNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 10:53 am

btw. i just went to inuyasha.org and …. nothing. it just says thank u for waiting. no hyperlinks. no where to go from that page. whats the deal?  

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curious one

April 11, 2007 @ 11:33 am

on inuyasha.org there is a partial translation of the chinese version (so it's not the most accurate thing) but you can get the idea of what happens  

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curious two

April 11, 2007 @ 11:50 am

just curious but any fix on the comments listing? It shows like 123 but there are 3000 something instead…  

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curious one

April 11, 2007 @ 12:40 pm

curius two, lol nice name

as far as the comments go, the 3480 is from all the comments on all topics since the website was started last year. A lot of that number is from spam posts, but starks has cut those out pretty much.  

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curious two

April 11, 2007 @ 1:12 pm

sorry if I offended… I just needed a name to post about the comments numbering. Guess it's not really a bug that needs to be fixed…  

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curious one

April 11, 2007 @ 1:13 pm

no offense taken, as they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

hopefully we'll get the chapter up soon and have more to discuss.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 3:22 pm

this may be a little off tapic of an older issue

as you know im terrable with names, so i wouln't rememver is it was said, but do we know sesshumarus mothers name???  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 3:37 pm

while on subjuct of the possible theory that maby inuyasha's and sesshoumaroues father favored inuyasha, (like manic_butterfly said the swords can be interperated any way) do you think it possible that their father favored inuyasha out of the two sons because he may have favored izioua (no idea how to spell her name, one of the few names i know) over his other lovers including shesshumarous mother. he may favor the younger of the two because he was concieved with the woman he cared for the most out of them all or maby more than the mother of sesshumarou. their is evedance to suggest that inuyashas father (can some one tell me his name???) perfered mortal women over his own kind.  

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curious one

April 11, 2007 @ 3:37 pm

his mother's name was never given, so you aren't as bad with names as you thought.  

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Anonymous

April 11, 2007 @ 4:17 pm

where is 501 already?!!!  

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StarksNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 5:16 pm

>>3490

Patience is a virtue.  

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Christina

April 11, 2007 @ 7:22 pm

I am patient. I am patient. I am. I am. I am. I…*repeats till it somes true*  

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Christina

April 11, 2007 @ 7:23 pm

*comes. my bad! And I'm just playing Starks. Thank you so much for doing this for all of us!  

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StarksNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 7:34 pm

Just a head's up. I've seen the chapter. It sucks. But you guys already knew this when the spoiler said it would back on Sunday.

There is very little dialog in this chapter. Half of the pages were unexciting single-panel action shots.

Now I understand why Patches didn't bother to translate the spoiler herself.  

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The REAL annoymous

April 11, 2007 @ 7:59 pm

Starks so does that mean you won't put the chapter up on till Sunday?  

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npNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 8:21 pm

You know, I think this whole issue with the swords sucks and I hope it gets resolved…fast. I hate the fact that Inuyasha is aquiring Sess's Tensaiga. I'll read the chapter of course, but this is not what I'm looking forward to.  

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mangoNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 9:46 pm

something tells me rumiko doesn't even want to end the manga.  

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alexisNo Gravatar

April 11, 2007 @ 10:16 pm

i don't want her to end it either  

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Crafty

April 11, 2007 @ 11:27 pm

Patches posted the translation on InuGoya  

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